benlreed

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Christ follower, husband, father, writer, pastor of small groups at Long Hollow Baptist Church. Communications director for the Small Group Network.
  • http://willfjohnston.com Will Johnston

    “Maybe you need to cancel your Facebook account. But before you do, check your heart.

    “And please don’t force everyone else to cancel theirs.”

    I think you hit the nail on the head here, Ben. Some people shouldn’t have Facebook, just like some shouldn’t have television, guns, or alcohol. Nearly anything can be abused, and those prone to abusing it might need to limit their own access to it.

    • http://www.benreed.net Ben Reed

      Thanks Will. You’re right…we can make an idol out of just about anything.

    • http://davidlermy.com David Lermy

      Will,

      Right on!

      Paul explains that everything is permissible but not all things are profitable. And that when we move beyond moderation, we slide down a slippery slop of sin. Ben is right. We need to moderate our hearts and allow that to control what we are actively engaged in!

  • KrisWolfe111

    Churches pushing un-Biblical standards is a huge reason why lots of folks I know don’t go to church. When people ask me why I like Grace, ONE of the reasons I share with them is that Grace does not tell you what you can’t do but rather gives you to tools to make wise and healthy choices not just for your relationships, but to grow closer to God. In the end, I think a good church’s (like Grace) biggest strength can be love. Loving yourself, loving your spouse even more, and having a daily love exchange with God. Rules might fail you, but His Love will not.

    • http://www.benreed.net Ben Reed

      So glad to worship with you at Grace, Kris!

    • Terry Jones

      Yes, churches pushing un-Biblical standards is a serious problem. Pastors and teachers not keeping the standards they teach is to.
      I wish I could have seen love at Grace, but I was not good enough in looks I guess, because only one person out of all of those people there thought I was good enough to talk to.

      • http://www.benreed.net Ben Reed

        Terry,
        I hate to hear that about your experience at Grace. It’s not the normal Grace way, I can assure you of that. We are a people who are broken over our own fallenness, seeking God and loving others with all we’ve got. If you haven’t found another church in town, I would love to invite you back to Grace.

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  • http://davidlermy.com David Lermy

    Ben,

    Solid thoughts on a possibly touchy issue. But you dealt with it well. I posted last week on my site about, Dealing With Your Darkside, in that people, even pastors, should not assume their heart is good soil. An idea I first heard talked about by Francis Chan in CRAZY LOVE. Christians are called to continually reflect, evaluate, confess, and realign our hearts with the will of God’s heart.

    The core problem is the root issue. Putting a bandaid on cancer solves nothing. The idea is ridiculous and so is trying to tell someone Facebook is the problem when their problems is lust, or whatever the issue may be. Like you suggested, teaching useful, biblical principles is the best things any of us can do for each other, especially lead pastors to staff pastors.

    I say all this with a heavy heart, because I have a close friend who is no longer a pastor because he had an affair. The affair found a flame to be fanned through texting. Maybe he should have stopped texting, or maybe his heart needed to find the sin and allow God to do what he does best and root it out. Being undisciplined lead to his failure, not texting. Texting played a small part, but it was definitely not the cause.

    Thanks for a solid post to interact with today!

    • http://www.benreed.net Ben Reed

      David, I’m so sorry to hear about your friend. That’s tragic. But like you said, the root issue wasn’t texting. The root was in his heart. It came out through the vehicle of texting.

      Thanks for jumping in the conversation!

      • http://davidlermy.com David Lermy

        Thanks Ben. We are still very close. He has gone through a full recovery program for over two years. Both families made it through the trial and are still intact and doing well. He has even been consulting with churches within the last year. Goes to show that God redeems us even when we fail.

    • Terry Jones

      Yes we are called to do all of that and be prepared, avoid temptation when we can. Have boundries, let them be known, and keep them.

      • http://davidlermy.com David Lermy

        Solid advice Terry.

  • http://twitter.com/bradleycee Bradley Carter

    Great post and an interesting discussion. I know I saw this and immediately thought “What??” It’s a touchy issue simply because so much happens with Facebook: networking, family/friend updates, etc.

    It [Facebook] has become a valuable part of society that everyone and everything uses to a ridiculous amount, which seems to make it a necessity if you plan on doing anything these days (I know it isn’t, just trying to make a point).

    Letters are outdated. Email is outdated. Even phone calls are walking the line because we’ve become so “socially unsocial” that we prefer texting. It’s to the point where if we can’t see people face to face, then we don’t want to hear them: Enter Skype and Apple’s Facetime App, which are ways of being social and interacting face-to-face but with a major disconnect by design.

    Facebook (and Twitter) have opened doors to a realm of social interaction previously unknown. One study showed that people who primarily used Facebook became more introverted, but tended to interact with their own familiar friends/groups more often. On the other side, the study also revealed that those using Twitter interacted with strangers more often and became more extroverted than before, attending social media meet-ups with groups of total strangers.

    Social media as a whole has definitely changed the “game.” Professional interviews are more often including a social media check. I’ve heard of many people losing jobs and second interviews over things that were posted on Facebook or other realms of social media. It’s crazy how our society has obsessed over this.

    As mentioned by someone else in a comment, this has surely turned into an idol for many people. The thing is – anything in this life can be turned into an idol. A man can love his wife as God intended, or he can obsess over her and turn her into a sort of idol. That does not make wives (or husbands) inherently bad.

    Similarly, the case can be made more material items and possessions: television, guitars/music, cars, etc. Many can be very useful and helpful in terms of praising God and sharing the gospel, but when these tools are misused they can become idols and cause devastation to the livelihood of a person.

    Facebook (and all other forms of social media) are mere tools. If you struggle with something like the situation mentioned in the post – then it may be best to de-friend or totally remove that person from your social “scene” or delete your account. If not, then there is no reason to go to such “extreme” measures. Honestly, it’s just Facebook, and, while it does have a great influence and power in today’s society, we can all live without it.

    If it weren’t for my job, I would have deactivated my Facebook account months ago, but since I must monitor and maintain multiple Facebook-based pages, I need my profile. So when Facebook started to become an idol for me, I had to buckle down and focus my energies back to where they should be.

    Facebook is a tool, and like any every other tool in this world – it is our responsibility as Christians to pinpoint whether or not it is something we struggle with and what lengths we must go to in order to protect ourselves from it.

    **Wow, that was a lot longer than I originally intended it to be. Great post, Ben! Way to ignite discussion!

  • http://twitter.com/noelbagwell Noel Bagwell

    Great article, Ben. Without the freedom to make your own moral judgments and exercise your own moral discipline, you cannot claim victory over temptation. Pharisaical insulation of oneself from “sin,” is not what God wants. He wants us to love him first, and our neighbor as we love ourselves. If we do these things, morality will follow. Pharisaical rules are grounded in fear that we cannot act out of love. Our God is a God of love, not fear.

    • Terry Jones

      Claim victory over temptation? What does God say? Flee

  • http://twitter.com/collfosh Colleen Foshee

    This makes me sad. Sounds like another Pharisee rule to be added to try to keep people from sinning. Didn’t work then, won’t work now. The law kills, but the Spirit gives life.

  • http://stalkingdonaldmiller.weebly.com Robin Matteri

    Here’s the deal: There were affairs prior to Facebook. Social networking sites have just made it easier for people to get caught. This is the silliest thing I’ve heard in a long time and it’s all over the place. I hear it all the time. People are blaming Facebook for destroying and breaking up their marriage.

    My husband had an affair and it wasn’t through Facebook and I didn’t blame anyone but him and I for that problem. The affair stemmed from issues in our messed up relationship and that’s it. It wasn’t because of him, the girl or me. It was a combination of him and I as a married couple.

    It comes down to commitment and accountability-Not Facebook or Twitter.

  • http://gottjesus.com got jesus

    Facebook and twitter are just tools, and like any tool how you use it is what matters.I use my facebook and my twitter to post my blog “thencamejesus.blogsport.com” it allows more people to read the goodnews of the gospel.now i could just as easy spread gossip, so th etool is there what are you willing to use it for

  • Got Jesus

    facebook and twitter are just tools in th etool box ,the question is how will you use them. I use my facebook and twitter to post my blog”thencamejesus.blogspot.com” it allows broader coverage and reader to share the good news of the gospel with.Now i could use them to spread gossip just as easy.How do you use yours,the site can’t be evil only the intent of those using the sites